Robin Steele Opposes IMBRA Legislation

Robin Steele is fervently and unequivocably opposed to the ill-advised and discriminatory legislative farce called IMBRA, or the International Marriage Broker Regulation Act.

Beware the motives of anyone who tells you otherwise. In fact, beware of anyone who really cares what I think of IMBRA.

In fact, even I don't care what I think about IMBRA. Other than the fact I'm opposed to it. Fiercely and unequivocably.

The MRIs are at it again!
Since Men's Rights Inactivists (MRIs) are not burdened by things like, say, planning, lobbying, writing and publishing articles, demonstrating, promoting legislation, campaigning, and other things real activists do, they have lots of time on their hands. Many of them lately have spent their free time attacking the Femzilla Feminazi Robin Steele that they have fabricated out of straw, fear and hate. As they are unwilling or unable to address Robin Steele's actual views, they concoct Rube-Goldberg-Meets-Oliver-Stone-like exposes that reveal my REAL views, which meet the Femzilla model and allows them to use their boilerplate vitriol and prepackaged hatespeech.

Thanks to the MRI campaign to communicate what I really believe, I have learned that I am a strong and impassioned supporter of something called IMBRA, the International Marriage Broker Regulation Act. IMBRA, which has to do with disclosure requirements made by Americans using "marriage brokers" and matchmaking services to meet foreign women, has not seemed to me to be the priority issue of Men's Rights Movement. Why? It seems to me that an issue that affects a few thousand single men is not in the same league as issues related to parental rights, child custody and other issues that affect millions of divorced and divorcing men and their families.

According to www.IMBRA.org:

The International Marriage Broker Regulation Act (IMBRA) makes it illegal for Americans to meet foreigners via social websites that specialize in such introductions, without first submitting to criminal background checks and having the foreigner sign an approval that contact is allowed. This outrageous law was secretly added as part of Violence Against Women's Act (VAWA) and presumes that all American men are abusers and foreign women need to be protected from them. Few Congresspeople remember voting for IMBRA or now know what it is all about.

imbra.org contains the usual exaggerated nonsense and hyperbole that so many of these men's sites insist on using to ensure they are not taken seriously ("IMBRA traps foreign women into marriages to foreign abusers and traps American men into marriages to American feminists." IMBRA will bring pestilence, drought, and a plague of locusts will darken the sky for 100 years, weakening the economy for the Feminist oppressors and Al Qaida to take over...)

And of course, what Men's Activist site could resist the mandatory 7th grade wordplay, changing the name of Senator Cantwell to Senator Cuntwell. Clever? You bet it's clever.

IMBRA does seem to be a flawed, one-sided and questionable piece of legislation being snuch through the back door without proper scrutiny. A number of questions occurred to me reading through it, including, "If this is gender neutral legislation, why is it part of the VAWA Violence Against Women Act? Are the same background checks required of the foreign women, in order to protect American men from con-artists? Is it fair to poison potential relationships by disclosing PFAs, which foreign women might not understand are dispensed like fountain drinks in the U.S. family courts?

IMBRA.org also includes a dated but decent article by Wendy McElroy which spells out the excessive restrictions IMBRA adds in order to protect others FROM US? Here's an excerpt:

The disclosure requirement is detailed under the provision entitled "Obligations of International Marriage Broker With Respect to Mandatory Collection of Information."
An international broker cannot provide contact or general information on a foreign woman to an American man unless that broker first collects and discloses to the woman the following information about the man:
— Every state of residence since the age of 18;
— Current or previous marriages as well as how and when they terminated;
— Information on children under 18;
— Any arrest or conviction related to controlled substances, alcohol or prostitution, making no distinction on arrests not leading to conviction;
— Any court orders, including temporary restraining orders, which are notoriously easy to procure;
— Any arrest or conviction for crimes ranging from "homicide" to "child neglect";
— Any arrest or conviction for "similar activity in violation of Federal, State or local criminal law" without specifying what "similar" means.

U.S. law will provide foreign women with extensive government information on American suitors that is not similarly offered to American women — which it shouldn't it be either.

MRA Resolutions: #1 Wake Up. #2 Smell The Coffee.

Thanks, Amoranthus, for a little glimpse of sanity... Just when I thought maybe I was losing it...

It gets disorienting when you stay too long beneath the waves in the murky world of the MRIs: Men's Rights Inactivists. It's a world where statements so obvious they're not worth stating ("Rape is bad," "People should have equal rights") are rejected as damnable heresy. Logic and reason hold no relevance in the world of the MRI.

In response to a comment thread where MRI Bob Allen was simultaneously preaching that women are both inferior yet have acheived total dominance over all men as well as our legal, social and educational systems, Amoranthus left this comment which stood out like a daisy in a weedfield:

Amoranthus said...
The comments here have me laughing out loud!
I may get a stitch!!
Facial muscles are already starting to hurt.

Gentlemen,I was thrown into the MRM about 5 years ago.
I've worked to organize, educate, rationalize, and discuss online and offline constantly for all of that time.
Guess what? Robin Steele is just stating the obvious.
Her synopsis of the MRM is right on the money. I can say that because I have been saying the same things for 5 years, -- and it's taken me hundreds of times as many words!
What Steele says about the MRM is exactly my understanding of it.
Wake up! Smell the coffee.
Push your collective faces into a cold sink.
Take a shower.
Put your egos aside and get busy.

Amoranthus
December 28, 2007 5:27 PM

One of the benefits of hanging out with MRIs is that I'm so much easier to please now that my expectations are significantly lower.

What do you think? Wait Wait... Let me guess! I'm a raving Feminazi Oppresor of Brave but Simultaneously Powerful and Powerless Men?

LEGAL MUSINGS

I'm going to solicit opinions from some respected attorneys who are active online on the following (growing) list of questions:

Can someone actually slander, defame or make libelous statements about an online persona whose true identity is not known, and who posts as "Anonymous" or by a fictional name?

Can someone, posting as Anonymous or a made-up name, be held accountable for defamation and/or tortious interference if they make untrue statements online about a real person with the expressed purpose of harming the reputation and business relationships of that person and the company he or she represents?

Can someone, posting as Anonymous or a made-up name, be held accountable for defamation and/or tortious interference if they make untrue statements online about a real person with the expressed purpose of harming the reputation and business relationships of that person and the company he or she represents - even though they've got the wrong person?

Glenn Sacks, Robin Steele "two most sane" MRAs

It's official!

Glenn Sacks & Robin Steele have been named "the two most sane self-identified MRAs."

According to his website, Glenn Sacks is a men's and fathers' issues newspaper columnist, radio commentator, and blogger. Glenn's columns have appeared in dozens of the largest newspapers in the United States. His radio commentaries appear daily on KLAA AM 830 in Los Angeles. He has made hundreds of radio and TV appearances, and is often quoted in major publications. To learn more about Glenn, see his biography here.

From the fact sheet issued by Robin Steele's press office: While it took Glenn Sacks nearly a decade and hundreds of articles and radio broadcasts to earn this recognition, Robin Steele was able to achieve this significant milestone in less than three months.

Robin Steele is an attorney and Men's Rights Activist who burst upon the scene in October, 2007 with her immediately controversial and influential Robin Steele blog (http://womanofsteele.blogspot.com).

The celebrated blog was actually created during a blogging lesson by a radical Feminist co-worker (Athena Y). During an off-hours blogging lesson (in which two bottles of Shiraz lost their lives), Athena Y taught Robin Steele about blogging by walking her through the process of building a hosted "Blogger" blogspot blog. Athena Y and other female colleagues often chided Robin for her pro-Men's Rights views and advocacy, so as she built the site Athena Y jokingly populated it with radical feminist propaganda, pro-IMBRA messages and insults to the men's rights cause Robin fervently supports. "That's how you'll get some quick traffic," joked Athena Y.

Athena Y was right, not only because of the original anti-male posts (which Robin removed as soon as she learned how), but also because of Robin's outspoken criticism of the lack of organization, initiative and effectiveness of those who call themselves Men's Rights Activists (MRAs) but Robin refers to as MRIs (Men's Rights Inactivists). The MRIs actively refer to the original bogus posts and invented statements to deflect Robin's steely criticism and brand her as one of their imagined Feminazi Oppressors. Though she's been locked out of RS's accounts, Athena Y and her feminist friends continue to stir up controversy by posting feminist comments on the 'net under Robin's name.

___________________________________________

Robin Steele wishes to congratulate co-recipient Glenn Sacks on his award of fellow "most sane self-identified MRAs."

She looks forward to reading more of his blog and seeing him at mutual speaking engagements in 2008.

Robin Steele wishes to thank Ampersand and the Academy members at Alas, A Blog for bestowing this heartfelt and important honor.

Robin Steele especially wishes to thank the University of Colorado, whose generous $2.5 million grant prompted the post and commentary that made this award to Glenn Sacks & Robin Steele possible.

Let's make 2008 the year we put the MOVE into the Men's Rights Movement.

Robin Steele, Esq.


You may find the award details and bulleted sentence at Alas, A Blog, near the end:

IMO, Glenn Sacks and Robin Steele are the two most sane self-identified MRAs.

AdEngage Rejects Bob Allen, Recommends "Professional Help"

I am a strong believer in the 1st Amendment & the American system of capitalism. When they work together the way they should, it's a powerful thing.

Freedom of Speech must not just apply to speech we like, or that we agree with. As unpalatable as it is, Bob Allen of The World According to Bob has the right to express his opinion that women and young girls enjoy being raped, that they are flattered by their rapists' attention and that they will brag about the incident the rest of their lives. Bob Allen has the right preach that the very people who protect his 1st Amendment rights, the policemen ("Blue gun thugs") and democratically elected officials, ought to be rounded up in town squares and "impaled," and their bodies dumped in ditches.

And those who hide behind the Men's Rights Movement to obscure their insecurity and personal cowardice, are free to defend Bob Allen and those like him, as defenders of oppressed men rather than delusional, paranoid psychopaths who do irreparable harm to the MRM.

My readers and I have the right to speak out against Bob Allen's hatespeech and advocacy of violence. We have the 1st Amendment right to urge companies to send Bob Allen & those like him a message: We will not support your campaign of hate. You have the right to promote your views, but not on our dime.

The innovative revenue-sharing affiliate advertising program AdEngage is the latest to send Bob Allen that message. The day AdEngage ads appeared on Bob Allen's site, Robin Steele and Woman of Steele readers alerted AdEngage that Bob's site was in violation of their site content policies. AdEngage acted swiftly and responsibly, and within a day or two, the ads disappeared from Bob's site. On Christmas, Bob Allen posted that he had personally decided to not have advertising on his site because it "detracted" from his message.

A comment left by an Anonymous reader (great job Anonymous!) who posted the response received from Adam, of The AdEngage Team, tells a slightly different story:

His latest form of revenue decided against him. I guess being an advocate of child rape will only get you so far.

I'm sure that he will try to make his blog more PC in the future. This is the response I got for bringing to attention Bob's blog.

"Thank you for your inquiry into this individual. AdEngage generally takes the line of always permitting free speech as it is guaranteed in the US constitution, and the right of every US citizen (as we are a US company), as long as the speech does not violate applicable laws. It is always a tough line to draw.

That being said - we do not believe that his content will encourage many advertisers to purchase on our network, and therefore his site has been denied admission to our network (when you had seen his site, he had not yet been approved).

Best Regards,

Adam
The AdEngage Team"


Bob is such a victim... Maybe he should try covering up his real thoughts just a little bit more so those "nazi" types won't censor him.

Or maybe he should get some professional help instead of dragging the MRA movement down with him.

Thanks, AdEngage, and thanks Anonymous for taking the time to send Bob Allen yet another message, and helping him arrive at his decision not to "monetize" his hate blog.

NOW LET'S URGE BLOGGER TO ENFORCE THEIR POLICIES & SEND BOB PACKING!

REPORT Bob Allen's BLOGGER VIOLATIONS
OR Click on "FLAG" at the top of the browser bar when visiting his site.
Report site URL: http://bobstruth.blogspot.com

Excerpt from Blogger's site content policies:
HATEFUL CONTENT: Users may not publish material that promotes hate toward groups based on race or ethnic origin, religion, disability, gender, age, veteran status, and sexual orientation/gender identity.
VIOLENT CONTENT: Users may not publish direct threats of violence against any person or group of people.

When we work together for the cause of peace and justice for everyone - regardless of gender, race, religion or creed - there is truly no stopping us!

SUCCESS! Bob Allen Discontinues Ad Program.

Congratulations to all readers of the Robin Steele blog who urged Google AdWords and AdEngage.com to enforce their policies against website publishers who promote click fraud, hate and violence against individuals and groups. Thanks to your willingness to speak out and take action, Bob Allen, publisher of The World According to Bob has abandoned efforts to "monetize" his irresponsible and reprehensible hate site. Bravo!

Bob Allen's website openly advocates violence and rape of women and young girls, calls for public "impalings" of police officers and elected officials, glorifies mass murderers and rampage killers as heroes, and offers practical moneysaving tips such as killing your wife prior to divorce because "Dead cunts get no custody." Of course, Bob Allen contends his decision not to pursue yet anopther ad provider was not a result of being dropped first from the Google AdWords program and then AdEngage.com at recent urging of Robin Steele readers. In Bob's December 25 posting, he contends he decided to drop ads to protect the sanctity and purity of his site. His unwavering commitment to not commercializing his hatespeech is truly inspiring:

Note to Readers
Bob has decided that the ads detract from the message of The World According to Bob. For a while at least the ads will be discontinued. Ads may be returned at some later date when or if Bob decides that they are warranted. Thank you to all who have supported advertisers.

Good move, Bob. It would be a shame to detract from your important message. I'm sure your fellow MRIs don't suspect you have been outclassed once again. But feel free spend more time finding and signing up for new advertising programs. We are watching. We are waiting.

This is a small but important victory, and one you should be proud of acheiving. And victory against hate is an important victory. How appropriate that it occurred on the birthday of the Prince of Peace, Jesus Christ.

Now, please join us in urging Blogger, the free blogging service that hosts Bob's site, in enforcing their policies against using their service to promote hatred and violence.

REPORT Bob Allen's BLOGGER VIOLATIONS
OR Click on "FLAG" at the top of the browser bar when visiting his site.
Report site URL: http://bobstruth.blogspot.com

Excerpt from Blogger's site content policies:
HATEFUL CONTENT: Users may not publish material that promotes hate toward groups based on race or ethnic origin, religion, disability, gender, age, veteran status, and sexual orientation/gender identity.
VIOLENT CONTENT: Users may not publish direct threats of violence against any person or group of people.

When we work together for the cause of peace and justice for everyone - regardless of gender, race, religion or creed - there is truly no stopping us!

Again, Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays from Robin Steele!

"My Enchanting Rapist" by Bob Allen, MRI Hate Poet

[WARNING: HIGHLY OFFENSIVE CONTENT] Here is the second entry into the Men's Rights Inactivists (MRIs) Poetry Project. We are collecting "found poetry" posted by MRIs who pretend to be MRAs (Men's Rights Activists). Once the volume is completed, it will be offered as part of a Men's Rights fundraising drive. For a donation, we will send you a volume of MRI Hate Poetry. For a higher donation, we will NOT send you a volume of MRI Hate Poetry.

From Bob Allen's post JonBenet Never Did Get Laid:

My Enchanting Rapist

OR JonBenet Never Did Get Laid
OR, Alas, A Rape Unrequited
by Bob Allen, MRI Poet

Sex almost never hurts any female
regardless of circumstances
and usually provides physical pleasure
and emotional satisfaction.

Even when taken by force
she understands that a man
has chosen her and risked his life
perhaps
for her female charms.

She is likely going to brag
about "my rapist"
for years and years,
because it’s a story about
how powerful and desirable
she was as a female.

Unfortunately for little JonBenet,
according to the published reports
her young c*nt was not large enough
to accommodate the man's organ
so he ended up
cuming in her pants
instead of
in her
c*nt.


What Females Want
By Bob Allen
"Found" here

When females aren't getting "raped"
they get upset and up the ante again
by becoming ever more sexual
in daily life.

It's really what they want,
a huge female desire --
despite all the rape-hate
they say in public.

If you don't find Bob Allen's advocacy of hatred, violence and rape of young women and girls, and violence toward police and public officials poetic either, please urge blog host Blogger and ad provider AdEngage.com (or email contact@adengage.com) enforce their own policies against hatespeech and violence and drop The World According to Bob website (http://bobstruth.blogspot.com/) from their programs.

MRI Poetry Project Gets First Entry

Robin Steele has begun to compile a book of poetry based on the excuses for inaction left as comments and forum posts by Men's Rights Inactivists. Once completed, the volume will be published and offered for sale with all proceeds being donated to the Robin Steele Men's Rights Advocacy Coalition.

The first "found" poem was discovered at the Antimisandry.com playground where the precocious youngsters delight in filling their time with a little Robin Steele-bashing. The pompous windbag of the MRIs, a NeccoWafer Buddhist namedKhrankybugger, left this inadvertent poem which is destined to become a classic.

Robin Steele can kiss my hairy Ass
by Khrankrsore, MRI Poet

I.

The Robin Steele campaign
and the other Feminist attack dogs.

Always seem to go
for a chain saw
when a needle probe
would do.

Over kill,
exaggeration,
dirty tricks,
attack the relatives,
children,
Grandchildren of their opponents.

Steele is obviously reading

this blog or forum.

II.
Feminazi Robin Steele
stated outright on her blog
that I lied.
Trying to draw me
into a debate or
some kind of war
of words.

It does not qualify
for my time or interest.
This is childish name calling.
And I repeat.
Feminists and Women
do not define Masculinity

never have and never will.
Men do.

III

Those who have Careers,
Family,
and people to protect may well,
use a historic name,
a tongue in cheek name,
a Parody name.

I do so for those
who I am protecting.

And Robin Steele can kiss my hairy Ass.
We will without doubt
see more
of these
tactics.

I'm dumbfounded. I am the muse for the greatest MRI poet the playground has yet produced. This is my calling. My destiny. My NeccoNirvana.

A series of NeccoBuddhist Poetry will make the perfect fundraising vehicle for the MRI! "Robin Steele Can Kiss My Hairy Ass" by Khankrumthebuggerer will be the perfect first volume! With a forward by MikeeUSA perhaps?

Robin Steele "Needs to be Taken Down"

Over on Masculisp Man's site, Bob Allen called for "Ms. Steele" to be "taken down."
Not my site, but me.
Although he seems semi-literate at times because of a learning disability, Bob actually writes with a very calculated and cautious cowardice. Over years of practice (He actually was named one of the Kooks of the Internet back in 2002) he has developed a way of calling for violence in ways that he can disavow later. He will call for policemen or judges to be "impaled" by mobs in the town square, thinking that he's cleverly hidden his advocacy of murder. He will glorify and honor school shooters and murderers of women, praising them for standing up against the oppressive army threatening all men, sending out his own Be All That You Can Be campaign to encourage alienated and disturbed young men into taking violent action and dying as heroes.

When he writes: "Ms Steele needs to be taken down," his words are carefully chosen to put the message out that I, not my website, should be silenced.

This is his M.O. Use military metaphors and references to Satanism to demonize opponents in the hopes of triggering the base impulses of the desperate and damaged.

Here is his comment, and my response.

Bob said...
Ms Steele needs to be taken down. She says she's a lawyer. I wonder what other lawyers, agents of Satan, and her professional customers think of that kind of hate blog?
December 22, 2007 7:39 PM

Robin Steele said...
They think I'm way too kind.They criticize me for trying to help the Men's Rights Movement get its sorry ass in gear. Most make fun of me for it. They tell me: why help people who are too lazy, self-absorbed or frightened to help themselves?

Others applaud me. They say there's no fun in oppressing men when the men make it so easy. They want a little more of a challenge, so they hope I can prod some of you to get into the game and give them a little bit of a challenge for a change.They laugh out loud when clowns like Khrank say: I have had enough abuse at the hands of Women, their enablers, Manginas and Nanny Government stealing my Money. I am sick of them... Time to kick some ass myself. And then he does NOTHING but talk some more. He's a real Texan BHNC: Big Hat, No Cahones.

They roared when Masculist Man said This bitch Steele will be sorry she ever fucked with me! and his Mini-Me Luke said Yeah! Everyone who's fucked with MM - or even petted heavily with him - has regretted it!What has he done? Assaulted me with attacks on the English language? Assailed my sensibilities?

And Bob Allen? He's hurt me the most. The free speech advocate has made my comments disappear almost as fast as Google made his fraudulent ads disappear. Almost as fast as Adbrite made Mikee's ads disappear.

I'll take the criticism of my Feminist peers, and from you MRI buffoons for one reason. There are real issues affecting Men, fathers and families in America and there are serious changes that need to be made. There are earnest men and women who are willing and able to effectively advocate for and achieve these changes. Unfortunately, they get sidetracked by the MRIs (Men's Rights Inactivists) who think that complaints with no action makes them MRAs.

Who is the real MRA - Anonymous misogynistic sel-absorbed clowns who can't point to a single achievement in FOURTEEN years... or someone who has shaken up and exposed the entire complacent zombified lot of you in a couple of months?

WHO? You tell me.

Khankrumthebuggerer: MRI Poet

"Robin Steele can kiss my hairy Ass."
Khrankenbooger on AntiMisandry

Thanks for the offer, Khrank. Really. I'm flattered. Tempting, but, no. I think I'll just keep kicking it for now.

The kids over at the Antimisandry.com playground are off from school. they've got lots of time on their hands, one of the advantages of being MRIs (Men's Rights Inactivists) rather than MRAs. The precocious youngsters delight in filling their time with a little Robin Steele-bashing.

At first I had hoped the pompous windbag of the MRIs, Khrankybugger, would spend a little time with a grammar book reviewing sentence structure. Li'l Kranky needs to memorize: Noun. Verb. Completes a thought. That's what makes a sentence, Kranky. I know the whole "completes a thought" is intimidating, but there's a first time for everything.

As I perused some of the Khrankster's finest sentence fragments pieced together to impersonate paragraphs, I had an epiphany!

The Robin Steele campaign and the other Feminist attack dogs. Always seem to go for a chain saw when a needle probe would do. Over kill,exaggeration, dirty tricks, attack the relatives, children, Grandchildren of their opponents. Steele is obviously reading this blog or forum.

He is not in fact the illiterate he pretends to be! He's a NeccoWafer Buddhist! And a Poet who don't No-it! I realized that he writes in poetry... some form of bloated Ginsburg Beat buddhist Haiku! And it's good... Very Good!

Robin Steele can kiss my hairy Ass
by Khrankrsore, MRI Poet

I.

The Robin Steele campaign
and the other Feminist attack dogs.

Always seem to go
for a chain saw
when a needle probe
would do.

Over kill,
exaggeration,
dirty tricks,
attack the relatives,
children,
Grandchildren of their opponents.

Steele is obviously reading

this blog or forum.

II.
Feminazi Robin Steele
stated outright on her blog
that I lied.
Trying to draw me
into a debate or
some kind of war
of words.

It does not qualify
for my time or interest.
This is childish name calling.
And I repeat.
Feminists and Women
do not define Masculinity

never have and never will.
Men do.

III

Those who have Careers,
Family,
and people to protect may well,
use a historic name,
a tongue in cheek name,
a Parody name.

I do so for those
who I am protecting.

And Robin Steele can kiss my hairy Ass.
We will without doubt
see more
of these
tactics.

I'm dumbfounded. I am the muse for the greatest MRI poet the playground has yet produced. This is my calling. My destiny. My NeccoNirvana.

A series of NeccoBuddhist Poetry will make the perfect fundraising vehicle for the MRI! "Robin Steele Can Kiss My Hairy Ass" by Khankrumthebuggerer will be the perfect first volume! With a forward by MikeeUSA perhaps?

The Contradictions of Robin Steele, Men's Rights Activist

I have private dialogues with about half a dozen or more of you who have seen past the contentions that I am simply the man-hating feminazi oppressor that the MRI (Men's Rights Inactivists) claim I am. But they are still suspicious, or at least perplexed.

If Robin Steele is truly a peace advocate, why doesn't she sign petitions
against websites that say bad things about men when we ask her to? Why
doesn't she jump through the hoops when those attacking her ask her
to? How can she be claim to be an MRA when she attacks Bob
Allen, Masculist Man and other staples of the so-called MRM boys club?

About the petitions, hoop-jumping and other tests of my MRAness: Call me arrogant, but I don't let others set my agenda.

I have a very clear and consistent message that I've been hammering out with the belief that those who are actually interested in changing things - rather than just complaining - will realize it and separate themselves from the rest.

I am focusing on Bob Allen for two reasons. First, I believe that to truly create change the MRM must have a truly ethical and morally defensive platform. It's easy to bash feminists, but it takes backbone and moral integrity to stand up against those with whom you agree on three out of five points, and not disregard the two areas of moral disagreement. Otherwise your creating a multi-headed beast that cannot advance in a single direction. Men cannot argue for fairness and justice, yet tolerate hatespeech and pro-violence rhetoric from those they allow to represent themselves as MRAs. If I WERE a feminist - like some of my colleagues - I'd have a field day discrediting a movement by focusing on easy targets like Bob, Mikee, Mascman. Basic political tactics 101.

The second reason for my focus on Bob Allen is to provide an example - albeit a small scale example - of how real activists get things done. I set a specific, acheivable goal: Get Google ads off Bob's site. I identified his weaknesses: his violation of the site content and click fraud policies. I hammered, hammered, hammered at it. When Google didn't respond I went to the advertisers. I hammered, hammered, hammered at it until I won. I would have kept hammering at it if it took a year. Two years. Why? Because that's how you get things done. That's how you create change.

I didn't have a doubt that I would succeed. Why? Because I was right. He was wrong. And that brings us around to the first point... The MRM can do the same thing to create changes in men's rights... pick specific goals, specific battles, and hammer, hammer, hammer... But you can only do that if you are RIGHT. And that's why the MRM must ferret out the haters, the whiners, the perverts and psychopaths in their midst
Happy holidays... stay strong...

Has Bob Allen's Google Ad Fraud Ended?

Tonight there is a blank spot on The World According to Bob where his Google Ad banner used to be. At least tonight, no advertisers will be defrauded by Bob Allen.

* * * * *

So Bob Allen has chosen AdEngage.com and its advertisers as his next victims. Of course he would not try AdBrite after seeing that AdBrite aggressively enforces their policies (having dropped fellow violence-advocate MikeeUSA after a single complaint).

Is The World According to Bob in violation of AdEngage.com Terms of Service? Hmmm....

"Company may immediately terminate your Account, or suspend your access to your Account, in its sole discretion and without notice, for conduct that Company believes is: (i) illegal, fraudulent, harassing or abusive; (ii) a violation of this Terms of Service or any other policies or guidelines posted by Company; or (iii) harmful to other users, third parties, or the business interests of Company. Use of an Account for illegal, fraudulent or abusive purposes may be referred to law enforcement authorities without notice to you."

"In connection with your use of the Site, you agree not to:

"Engage in any "click spamming" (artificially inflating click counts or ... otherwise induce a visitor to click on an ad other than when visitors are actually interested in the product or service being offered).

"Upload, post, email, transmit or otherwise make available any Content that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, tortuous, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, libelous, invasive of another's privacy, hateful, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable;
Use the Site to harm minors in any way.

"Use the Site to "stalk" or otherwise harass another."

What do you think?

Bob Allen's Click Fraud Campaign

Google advertisers whose ads appear on Bob Allen's blog are victims of a click fraud ring. How does it work?

Those little boxes with "Ads by Google" are called "Pay-per-Click" advertising. Website owners that meet Google's site guidelines place their websites that show and update the ads. Every time someone clicks on one of the rotating, contextual ads, the advertisers pay and the site owner and Google get paid.


Website owners sign an agreement in which they agree not to click on their own ads or ask anyone else to click on their ads, since that is defrauding the advertisers with false clicks.
The advertisers sign up with Google ("AdSense" program) and agree to pay every time someone clicks on the link in their ad. They set a budget and Google's system automatically places their ads on sites using a "contextual" criteria.

If a company sells an anti-rape product, Google will place it on sites containing the word "rape." Advertisers are assured their name and products will only be associated with sites that meet their anti-hate, non-criminal, anti-violence policies, and they'll do all they can to assure the "clicks" they pay for are bona fide prospects, not the site owner or his pals fraudulently inflating his clicks and, in essence, stealing from the advertiser.

As these examples show, Bob and his supporters actively instuct people to support them by clicking on his ads, even though they do not intend to buy. This is called "Click Fraud."

Additionally, Bob Allen's site openly promotes hate and violence against women, police officers, individuals and public officials... All in violation of Google's ad policies.

If you advertise with Google, contact them and insist that none of your ads appear on http://bobstruth.blogspot.com/. While you're at it, ask them why they don't enforce their own policies against fraud, hate, profanity and violence.

SEE WHO'S GETTING CHEATED.

Victims of Bob Allen GOOGLE AdSense Fraud Alerted

These Google Advertisers are Some of the Victims of Fraud by Bob Allen:
Cartwright, Scruggs, Fulton and Walther - Law Firm
Tazer C2 Women's Self Defense/Personal Protection
Not-Me non-profit self defense training
Myra's Productions
Crime Shield USA
Coffee Fool
Personal Safety Inc.
Wings Martial Arts Academy
OnGuard Kids
National Alert Register
Wristbands Now
Safety Gear Depot
Public Records Now
SquareSpace.com


These Google Advertisers Have Demanded their Ads not Appear on Bob Allen's Site:
Beach Cities Protective Services
Front Sight Firearms Training Institute
J & L Self Defense Products

HOW? Their Ads are promoted on Bob Allen's The World According to Bob
They Pay for Fraudulent Clicks.
Their image is being damaged by appearing on a hate site.
They are funding a site that promotes violence against women, law enforcement, and public officials.

What Google advertisers do?
Tell Google you do not want your ads appearing on http://bobstruth.blogspot.com/ because of click fraud and content in violation of Google policies. Request that you not be charged for any clicks originating from the site. Once done, email me at robinsteele@myway.com and I'll post a link to your site for free.

Bob Allen's website openly engaged in perpetuating fraud and damaging the brand equity of dozens of legitimate companies using Google Adwords. Robin Steele and others have alerted Google, and thus far Google has failed to enforce its own policies and protect its advertisers. So Robin Steele is asking you to help inform these companies that they are the victims of click fraud & should tell Google to take their ads off "The World According to Bob" and credit them for any clicks occuring on that site.

Companies Victimized by Bob Allen's Click Fraud & Violent, Hateful Content
I am sure these legitimate companies are not aware their ads are appearing on The World According to Bob, a site that not only advocates violence against women, law enforcement and individuals, but also engages in click fraud by soliciting clicks from readers with no intention of buying. Please inform these companies of this link, and suggest they contact Google to demand their ads no longer appear on this site and credit them any clicks originating from this site.

Companies that discontinue ads on Google will receive a free link on this site by emailing robinsteele@myway.com
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Cartwright, Scruggs, Fulton and Walther
Dana Scruggs dana@csfwlaw.com
Laura Walthermailto:lbwalther@csfwlaw.com
Harold Cartwright harold@csfwlaw.com
David Fulton david@csfwlaw.com

Tazer C2 Women's Self Defense/Personal Protection
Cherry Properties, LLCd/b/a http://www.personaltazercv2.com/ 3233 E Memorial Rd. Edmond, OK 73013 Customer Service 866.478.2423
info@personaltazerc2.com

Not-Me non-profit self defense training for women & other at-risk groups
http://www.not-me.org/
781.643.1499 info@not-me.org
The majority of students are people in groups that are traditionally considered vulnerable or have been historically targeted for violence. These groups include but are not limited to people with physical disabilities, women, the gay and lesbian population, and racial minorities.

Myra's Productions
1-800-797-3966
P. O. Box 1355 Eagar, AZ 85925
SALES@MYRASPRODUCTIONS.COM ; SERVICE@MYRASPRODUCTIONS.COM ;INFO@MYRASPRODUCTIONS.COM

Crime Shield USA
http://www.crimeshieldusa.com/?gclid=CLrL38jHtJACFSG8GgoduE_lLQ
customerservice@richincusa.com
Crime Shield, USA™ 3524 Yadkinville Rd Suite 255Winston-Salem, NC 27106

Front Sight Firearms Training Institute
http://www.frontsight.com/landingpg-1.asp?src=gaw&creative=33

Coffee Fool
http://www.coffeefool.com/?gclid=CK35loTKtJACFSG8GgoduE_lLQ
executivefools@coffeefool.com

Personal Safety Inc.
http://www.personalsafetyinc.com/
admin@personalsafetyinc.com
sales@personalsafetyinc.com


Wings martial Arts Academy
http://www.wingsmartialarts.com/
wma@wingsmartialarts.com

The World According to Bob is a Sick World Indeed

Violent, threatening content:
Of a Santa Clara County Prosecutor, Bob wrote: "The lying whore ought to be taken out and hanged in front of the courthouse for her malicious persecution crimes."
Of Judge Lee: "Agent of Satan in black robes of Hell, Lee... must be destroyed utterly to return freedom to America."
Anonymous Comment, approved & posted: "This will never stop untill all police are executed with one bullet to the back of the head and all feminist women (witches) are burned alive untill they die."

Bob Allen openly advocates violence against police officers & women.
Bob Allen: Death Threat Against Peace Activist Robin Steele
Bob Allen: Slain Officer Called "BAD RUBBISH"
Bob Allen's Messages of Hate:
Police should be rounded up and killed
Women & Little Girls Like Getting Raped
Wives seeking a divorce should be murdered
A murdered police officer is cause for celebration
Bob Allen: Lay them low and drop their bodies in ditches
>> SIGN OUR PETITION TO REMOVE THIS DANGEROUS HATE SPEECH<<

Click Fraud:
Bob Allen and his supporters post these meassages around the Internet, in violation of Google's policies:
"SUPPORT MEN'S RIGHTS!CLICK BOB'S GOOGLE ADS!
Bob Allen is fighting to tell the truth about the Feminazi menace! Support him by going to his website and clicking on his GOOGLE ad repeatedly.The World According to BobEvery time you click he gets a little more to fight the tax-funded femnazis. Every click is like a kick in the cunt of some feminist oppressor.JOIN the MRM click EXCHANGE! We're funding men's movement!"

PLEASE TELL GOOGLE TO REMOVE YOUR ADS from bobstruth.blogspot.com, and demand that they enforce their own policy against sites that advocate hate and violence!

Bob Allen Costs GOOGLE AdSense $3000/mo. Account

Tonight I sent an email to the owner of a company that sells self-defense products online. They have close ties to law enforcement, and work with the local sheriff's dept.. I notified him that his company's ads were appearing on cop-hater Bob Allen's blog, right next to posts advocating the murder of policemen.

The owner emailed me back within half an hour. He notified me that he had already suspended his $3000 per month AdWords campaign until GOOGLE could assure him that his ads would not appear on http://bobstruth.blogspot.com. Here's an excerpt from his heartening email:

Robin,
Thanks for brining this to my attention. As I assume you know, Google has Adwords on millions of websites. I seriously doubt they screen them. I think this Bob Allen guy is an idiot... I do not condone him in any way nor do I want expensive Adwords dollars being used to fund him in any way so I suspended my Google adwords account and sent the following email to administration:

I paused my Adword account until this can be taken care of. ...I spend about $3,000.00 a month with them, so I am pretty sure they will pull the ads from his site. I don’t want the kind of people who frequent sites like Bob’s to be buying my products, I don’t need the money that bad.
...in my line of work, it is not always about being right, we must also appear to be right. I work for the sheriff’s department here... and we are a family owned business that is one of the oldest self defense sites on the internet. We pride ourselves on quality products, excellent customer service and we most definitely care about credibility and public perception.

...I think you have enlightened me about some negative things done with Adwords and in response I have pulled ALL my ads until they can guarantee my ads will not be posting on his site. I assume you will get a similar response from the other merchant.

So good luck with your quest and let me know if you ever need anything.

Great to hear from a man not afraid to immediately and boldly act against hate speech. He made it clear that he thought Bob Allen had the right to spew his idiotic views, but he had the right not to contribute to him in any way.

I agree. Hopefully, Google will too, soon. Eventually, it will cost them enough that they'll enforce their own policies and dump Bob Allen.

Does Beach Cities Protection & CSF&W Know They're Promoting Violence Against Police?

If not, they should tell GOOGLE not to allow their ads on bobstruth.blogspot.com! They should not pay for the clicks, because this site is in clear violation of Google's policy against violence and hate.

email: Beach Cities Protection at btnt3jojo@aol.com

Cartwright, Scruggs, Fulton and Walther
"For more than 20 years, the attorneys at Cartwright, Scruggs, Fulton and Walther in Santa Cruz, California have assisted hundreds of survivors of childhood sexual abuse in holding their perpetrators accountable."
Dana Scruggs, one of the attorneys at CSF&W, has been nationally recognized and recommended as a legal resource by publications such as “The Courage to Heal–A Guide for Women Survivors of Child Sexual Abuse” and “Shifting the Burden of Truth—Suing Child Sexual Abusers, a Legal Guide for Survivors and Their Supporters.” does he is paying a person who advocates rape of women and little girls? I'm sure he doesn't.

Do they know they are the victims of click fraud, as Bob Allen encourages people to click his ads to "support men's rights?" I doubt it.

HAVE THEY READ:

Bob Allen openly advocates violence against police officers & women.
Bob Allen: Death Threat Against Peace Activist Robin Steele
Bob Allen: Slain Officer Called "BAD RUBBISH"

Bob Allen's Messages of Hate:
Police should be rounded up and killed
Women & Little Girls Like Getting Raped
Wives seeking a divorce should be murdered
A murdered police officer is cause for celebration
Bob Allen: Lay them low and drop their bodies in ditches
>> SIGN OUR PETITION TO REMOVE THIS DANGEROUS HATE SPEECH<<

PLEASE TELL GOOGLE TO REMOVE YOUR ADS from bobstruth.blogspot.com, and demand that they enforce their own policy against sites that advocate hate and violence!

Robin Steele Apologizes to Chris Key

Shortly after I stumbled into the often moronic blogging and forum world of supposed Men's Rights Activists (during my search for a Men's Rights Movement that showed some hope of Movement), I wrote the following post on Chris Key, host of the Men's Rights Online forum:

Chris Key, Hate Speech and the Self-Fulfilling Prophecy of MRAs

I reacted to his "Avatar" which was an illustration of Uncle Sam with the words "We need YOU to kick a feminist IN THE C*NT". That was actually offensive to me. After kicking around their blogs that stop at nothing to get some kind of a reaction, it seems pretty mild about now.

Anyway, after visiting his forum for a while now, I've developed a measure of respect for Chris Key for a few reasons.

The first reason Chris Key deserves respect is that he brought in a woman called ElfPrincess to represent an alternative viewpoint. In fact, he made her a moderator. ElfPrincess is impressive: Tough, smart & she holds her ground. She's got a higher tolerance level for morons than I do. Frankly, I don't know how or why she's put up with the kind of bullshit she has. Maybe she owes Chris money.

The second reason Chris Key deserves respect is that he backed her up. It would be easy to strand her or be middle of the road when all his cronies are ganging up on this articulate and unyielding debater, but he didn't.

The third, and my favorite, reason for respecting Chris Key is that he banished Masculist Man to Troll Town(!). As a fallen citizen with troll status, he can no longer sit at the adult table, and must now sit at the rickety card table with his rubber sword and eat humble MasciePie all alone. How great is that? Perhaps others will realize what I've been saying: the most dangerous enemies of any men's rights movement are the haters, the posers, the bitter misogynists who do not, truly, put their efforts in creating change or advancing understanding or dialogue.

So, Chris, I apologize. While I still think you should find a new avatar for 2008, I think you have conviction and are truly searching for the truth, and are truly advocating change. I was wrong to attack you.

I also apologize for any damage to your reputation caused by my positive comments.

Men's Rights Activist Robin Steele... Exposed!!!

The game is up! The real Robin Steele has been exposed! The hours and hours of hard detective work, late nights, clandestine meetings with shadowy operatives and nervous informants, tireless research and undercover investigations by the Woodward & Bernsteins of the MRA, Luke Skywalker and Fidelbogen, have paid off.

These exposes are a huge win for those intent on distorting the views of Robin Steele, which are designed to undermine the current MRM culture of inaction, stagnation and windbag worship. KUDOS to Luke and Fidel, inspiring young MRAs so proud to be carrying the MRM banner down the road to nowhere like their heroes Masculisp Man, Blob Allen, Khrankybugger, Duncan Donuts and more...

Luke Skywalker Ascends to MM's Lap with his Seminal Work
Young Luke Skywalker has earned the right to grasp and raise high MMs masculist lightsaber with his unbelievably thorough two-part expose. Although his contentions are as incorrect and they are insignificant, the MRM's young Jedi knight is all aflutter, basking in the admiration of his peers and prominent praise and a link on the site of his mentor Masculist Man(!).

Robin Steele Exposed — Part 1: Steele LIED About MRM Websites
Robin Steele Exposed — Part 2

The critics rave about "Robin Steele Exposed:
ChristianJ raves: "Well done..."

Simon sez: "Good work, Luke"

Masculist Man proclaims: "Way to nail her hide to the wall, Luke."

Timberwolf raves: "Excellent job Luke! Absolutely stellar! An excellent piece of investigation!"

Simon again sez: "Excellent work my friend."

bob screams with delight: "Good article."

Masculist Man reiterates: "Great expose, Luke. Way to nail her hide to the wall."

Michael opines: "Thank you for the investigation, Luke."

NotNOW raves: "This is all very interesting.... Very Very Interesting."

ChristianJ again exclaims: "Good effort…"

________________________________________

FidelBogen's Unintelligible "A Detective Story of Sorts" Gets Two WTFs Up!

Not to be outdone, FidelBogen, a hard-hitting investigative reporter known as a leader in journalistic pseudointellectual unintelligibility and owner of the Feminist Counter blog, has posted his best work to date... a masterpiece so unintelligible it is a sure Pulitzer contender in the contentious MRA/WTF? category.

Fidel (who named himself after the Cuban socialist dictator he physically resembles) makes the groundbreaking revelation that a 3rd conspirator Biron Sleete (purportedly Masculist Man's Carl Rove) secretly worked with Masculist Man to fabricate posts (known as the hanky-panky-pants-on-fire files) in order to discredit Robin Steele. Or maybe he's contending Masculist Man IS Robin Steele. OR maybe he's... well, you have to read it to not understand it fully:

Fidelbogen's A Detective Story of Sorts:

Although no one actually praised "A Detective Story of Sorts," if they had, they'd have surely called it one of the season's "must-read exposes" on Men's Rights Activist Robin Steele, a "Wildly babbling tour de force," an "incredible lot of words" and more:

Anonymous raved: "More solid proof (with screenshots) at this website..."

Anonymous proclaimed: "Let everyone read this post too. Biron Sleete is a fraud."

Kuuenbu exhorted: "Definitely a revealing post... I personally don't think they help the "comic book guy" image that the MRM currently suffers from."

Anonymous exclaimed: "Yes Robin Steele's game is unraveling... She has been punked."

Marx ejaculated: "Good detective work there, Mr. Fidel."

bola exhorted: "Great research."

And Percy boldly pronounced: "The moral is - don't fiddle when FidelB is on the case!"

Bit of trivia about Fidelbogen: FidelB was delighted to learn that his brilliant treatise The Pragmatic Evolution of Terminologies, is being read aloud in the homeland of his hero, Fidel Castro! In CIA documents leaked earlier this year it was revealed Fidelbogen's treatise is being read to the interrogation prisoners who were able to resist waterboarding. The CIA report said that even the toughest prisoners would spill their guts to stop the reading, and though long-term exposure to Fidelbogan's writing causes significant brain damage, Fidel's writing is seen as an extreme but failsafe way to inflict pain on an adversary. Congratulations Fidelbogan!

Robin Steele, Factory-Direct

A reader named "Factory" recently left a comment. Factory is a 37 year old father of 2 girls. He says he "had it all taken away, with pressure from everywhere to 'just give up'. I drove myself to financial ruin just to stay near my kids. I lost it all, because my wife wanted a bigger wallet to marry. Whatever, she can do so if she wants. I just don't have to set myself up for the same shit again, condescension notwithstanding."

Factory said:

...my understanding is you call yourself an MRA these days, if so it's
fairly obvious you do so to try and discredit the people who are actually trying to correct an injustice or two. That makes you a bad person in my
books...

My response: "Sometimes what seems obvious is actually the opposite of the truth.

"I am really sorry to hear what you've gone through. I have people I care about very much in the same situation. Life is hard enough to deal with - trying to make a living, getting old, dealing with the deaths of those you love - without the added pressure that we put each other through. The court system and public perception put men - especially fathers - at an unfair disadvantage. I have seen this firsthand and it has made me an advocate for men's rights.

"Make no mistake: I don't call myself a men's rights activist, I am a Men's Rights Activist. And while I haven't directly suffered the injustices you have, I will submit to you that I have more right to that title than more than half of those posting on men's blogs and forums, and here's why:

"I don't want you to give up.

"I want you to believe that you can handle it. I want you to know that change is possible. I want you to know that however tough it is right now, it will be worth it. Hate and anger can't save you but love and faith can: the love you have for your daughters, the faith that no matter how many lies or barriers are put up, your fatherly love will reach them and some day they will thank you for persevering.

"Some day they will visit you and your grandchildren will jump out of the car, come running to you, and you will know it was all worth it.

"Now all will scream that this is more Robin Steele Feminazi lies, deception, etc. But if you continue to listen to what I actually say, I am not being inconsistent at all. I am an advocate for real change. I believe that many of your comrades here are actually, deep down, against change.

"I believe the attitudes expressed on the blogs and forums are the greatest barriers to correcting the anti-male court system that there is. Why? Because theirs is a bias AGAINST action. They are content to whine and complain - which is fine at first - but they never take it any farther. They create the illusion of some huge feminist stranglehold that they can't defeat. They dream of some violent, glorious uprising that somehow is not their responsibility to organize. It's ludicrous and delusional, but it gives them an excuse to remain victims and justifies their inaction.

"Where do they leave you, Factory? How do you feel after the exhilaration of their comaraderie? My guess is they may help you feel understood, but they don't make you feel empowered, or hopeful. My guess is participation in those discussions leads to more despair.

"I invite you to read my post called the Eloquence of Cowardice. Paul Parmenter is an eloquent and talented writer. But his mockery of my ideas for action reveal a sad and defeatist attitude that permeates many of these attitudes: that if men truly try to create change, they will probably fail and be humiliated once again. He is justifying inaction, staying anonymous and complaining to each other where it's safe.

"Sometimes those who seem to be obviously championing your cause are actually the saboteurs of progress. Perhaps the one who is called the Enemy is the one who is sounding the battle call, and trying to wake the sleeping troops. Now that you've read my viewpoint, you can be the judge.

"Hang in there, Factory. your daughters need you. Robin Steele"

Is Blasphemy Approved of in the Men's Rights Movement?

In recent posts, I have noted that the extreme conformity within MRM blogs and forums is disturbing and self-defeating. The majority of these supposed "activists" are too meek to voice any opinion that might prompt criticism in the least. Even when the lies and illusions they trade with each other, they attack the truthteller with a pack mentality. They will not speak against the calls for violence and hatespeech of the mentally ill among them. And while many profess to be Christians, they ignore or are apologists for blatantly un-Christian and outright blasphemous views spewn forth by their comrades.

Blatant misogynist Christianj appears to be one of the "popular kids" on the Antimisandry.com playground. On my first trip to his misogynistic What Men are saying about "Women" two utterly ridiculous and openly blasphemous statements glared at me from the page:

"It's a known fact that women have no concept of GOD or anything that he does..."

"Women are only EVER interested in themselves..."

While the statements "It's a known fact..." (It is? To whom?) and "Women are only EVER interested in themselves..." mainly demonstrate the author's determination to destroy his own credibility as quickly as possible, the statement "...women have no concept of GOD or anything that he does..." is worse than ludicrous... it's blasphemy.

The Bible says that every one of God's children - men and women - possess the ability to know him and be saved if they open their hearts and accept Christ. That is the foundation of the Christian faith, and the reason that the Lord sent his only bgotten son to suffer and die for our sins. Everyone's sins. Christianj believes his opinion supercedes our Savior's.

This post was made in October and is linked from every comment he makes on Antimisandry. Yet there is not a single objection to this outrageous and offensive statement on his site or in the forum.

Are there no Christians in the MRM? Would they rather tolerate blasphemy than speak out on behalf of their faith, and in defense of the Word of God?

Robin Steele Exposed

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Feminazi blogger Robin Steele has been flat out lying about the MRM for a long time now, and it’s high time that both she and her ridiculous claims are exposed. In her post, Angry Harry vs. Feministing Part 1, Steele gives fake reasons for the fake claim that that the MRM congragates in “cotentious [...]

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Re: Robin Steele Exposed ? Part 1
http://womanofsteele.blogspot.com/20...and-liars.html

This is her new thread in her blog, and of course, who are the liars?
khankrumthebulgar
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John Dias
paul parmenter

And this all tells you a person (woman? anonymous), who is keeping a link to Ginmar, one of the most men-hateful radical US-feminist on the internet...

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Robin Steele: I am an advocate for an effective men’s rights movement.

Some peope are dreaming, mixing up reality with fantasy...

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Aren't we really giving this one feminazi Robin Steele rather a lot of publicity?!

(Incidentally, Stalin means 'man of steel'. So what does 'woman of steel' translate as!)

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Re: Robin Steele Exposed ? Part 1
Robin Steele's latest post confirms my suspicions that all along, she was aware that my half-hearted attempt to enter the "sisterhood" was a prank.

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Aren't we really giving this one feminazi Robin Steele rather a lot of publicity?!

(Incidentally, Stalin means 'man of steel'. So what does 'woman of steel' translate as!)
Tampon?

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Robin Steele Exposed ? Part 2
Again, I can't fit the entire thing on here, so you're going to have to click on it to view it.) This is what Robin Steele's "Call for Peace" really is. Now I realize this is a bit scrambled since I got it out of Google Cache a long time ago, but I'll decode the relevant parts for you. The header says: Robin Steele: IMBRA was just the beginning! Support your sisters! Defeat the cretins! And the post, if you look closely says: The time has come to end the predatory use of the Internet to perpetuate violence against women! The time has come for women of all races, faiths, and nationalities to join together as one! We are smarter. We are focused. We have the power. And we are seizing control. IMBRA was just the beginning. The time has come. The future is ours. Support your sisters! Defeat the Cretins! [Tags: female domination, feminism, feminist, imbra, internet predators, male subservience, online dating rights, women rule, women's rights] Wow. That's a lot different from the "call for peace" ploy that she put up to cover for herself, now isn't it. Make sure you catch the taglines that clearly say "female domination", "male subservience", and "women rule". But that's not all. Take a look at her sidebar, and you'll see that the IMBRA Overview, Feministing, Feminist Blogs, Tahirih Justice Center [the ones who were responsible for IMBRA], and the Feminist Majority Foundation are listed under a category labeled "Women of STEELE!" And she tells us she's not a feminazi? And look at a few of the things that are listed under the category called "DEFEAT THE CRETINS". Men's News Daily, Chris Key, Veterans Abroad, and Online Dating Rights are "Cretins" according to her. Men's News Daily is a cretin? Men's News Daily is nothing more than an MRA newspage for men's issues, which are often sadly ignored by the mainstream media. And this is even more interesting, because Robin recently wrote a post in which she accused KhankrumtheBulgar of lying when he said that she said that Men's News Daily is a "hate site". Actually she did change the header "DEFEAT THE CRETINS" to "HATE SITES" at one point, and unfortunately I don't have a screenshot of it so she'll slip the noose on that one, but anyway it's pretty clear that KhankrumtheBulgar wasn't lying, and that Robin is the one who is lying. Chris Key is a cretin? Chris Key is a very polite young man, exceptionally mature for his age, who has given nothing more than logical, factual argumentation for his entire career as an MRA, and he is incredibly strict about not going any farther than logic and facts will allow him to go. Perhaps the strictest in the entire MRM on that point. Veterans Abroad and Online Dating Rights [whom she calls Veterans without A BROAD and ODeR] are cretins? Hmm, it would seem to me that they're men who are trying to fight against the anti-male law IMBRA. Is that what constitutes a "cretin" in her eyes? I suppose so. I also noticed that NAMBLA is on her list of cretins, as is the National Sex Offender Registry. So she's trying to imply that MRA's are on the same level as NAMBLA and sex offenders? And last but not least, look at her welcome message: It says: WELCOME SISTERS! We're glad you're here! IMBRA was just the beginning of a new era! We're Stronger. Smarter. & in Control. We're Women of Steele So, basically a reiteration of the same old pro-IMBRA, anti-MRA, pro-female-supremacy screed. But that's not all folks... Wait until you see what Robin has to say about opponents of IMBRA.

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Re: Robin Steele Exposed ? Part 2
She is a feminut and not to be trusted.I dont believe that she is really an equalitarian underneath and an ally to the MRA movement,like someone said.

Top Lies About Robin Steele (And the Liars Who Tell Them)

The normal pattern of my detractors is this:

1) Distort or outright lie about my (Robin Steele's) viewpoint.
2) Spread the lies and distortions on MRA blogs and forums to get others stirred up
3) Continuously attack the false or distorted viewpoints and denounce the imaginary "Feminazi Robin Steele."

Eventually, the lies backfire because the smarter MRAs, the ones who truly are interested in truth and change, eventually read what I actually say and are surprised. They might not agree with me, but they realize that they've been misled and that the real Robin Steele is much different than the Straw Woman Feminazi Robin Steele that's bandied about.

Julie from antimisandry, Exposing Feminism, Captain MRA, and others realized that they had been lied to once they read my posts directly. I've decided to put together a sort of directory of the lies and who's telling them, just to help shorten the learning curve.

Here are just a few quickies among many more out there:

THE LIAR: khankrumthebulgar posted on antimisandry.com
THE LIE: "Robin Steele if that is her/his real name. Posted on Bob's Truth blog that I endorsed the Rape of my own daughter." and "Ms. Steele accused me of approving the molestation and Rape of my Own Daughter...." on antimisandry ""a Fake posting by Robin Steele on her blog that she made and attributed to me. That I approved of the Rape of my Daughter." and several other places.
THE TRUTH: This is a lie. Someone posted an Anonymous comment on bob's site parodying K. He attributes it to me for no other reason that he says so. I clarified it wasn't me and disavowed its content on my site. K chooses to make this false accusation across the Internet to discredit me. He never even asked Bob to remove the offending comment.
THE LIE: "I have notified the offending parties that they have slandered me... Ms. Steele claims to be a Lawyer. When I am finished with this Bitch she may be living in a Van down by the River... I will file a Bar Association complaint against Ms. Steele if she is fact a Lawyer."
THE TRUTH: Khrankybugger did not file a slander suit, did not file a Bar Association complaint and I am not living in a van down by the river. Poor man does not realize one can't slander a fictional character.

THE LIAR: khankrumthebulgar on antimisandry.com
THE LIE: "...her calling Mensnewsdaily.com a "Hate Site", makes her a Rabid Gender Feminist Per Se."
THE TRUTH: I never called Mensnewsdaily.com a hate site.

THE LIAR: Bob Allen, posted here.
THE LIE: "There is a blog called Exposing Feminism, (EP)... EF is run by the same feminists who pose as Robin Steele."
THE TRUTH: False. I've never met nor know the identity of anyone at Exposing Feminism.

THE LIAR: Yohan on antimisandry
THE LIE: "She takes it as a fact, that an 8.y.o. boy is a rapist despite nothing is proven yet..."
THE TRUTH: I never said he was guilty, just charged. See for yourself at the post.
THE LIE: "A person, who calls ONLY MRAs to be liars, while feminists obviously always speak out the truth..."
THE TRUTH: Yohan freely invents this stuff. I've never said feminists always tell the truth, or discussed the subject as far as I know.
LIE: "[The link to ginmar] is the ONLY link to another website on her blog."
TRUTH: Clearly a lie. In fact, there are many links are to men's sites.

THE LIAR: Feminist Scum on antimisandry
THE LIE: "She's just one stupid bitch, probably a lesbian femcunt who hates men, who is easily ignored..."
THE TRUTH: Stupid? Maybe. Bitch? Certainly. Lesbian femcunt? Hetero femcunt. Hates men? Far from it. Easily ignored? Not likely.

THE LIAR: Luke Skywalker
THE LIE: "Her goal is to defeat the MRM, whom she refers to as "cretins". "
THE TRUTH: My goal is to save the MRM by persuading them to jettison the deadweight cretins who prevent "movement" from occuring.

THE LIAR: Feminist Scum on antimisandry
THE LIE: "What a total horse fucker."
THE TRUTH: I assure you that I have never fucked a horse. A burro is not a horse.

THE LIAR: Frostboy from Antimisandry Evidentally, Frostyboy decided to contact Robin Steele to infiltrate the secret Feminazi "Sisterhood." He sent a link to his fake feminist site called notafemcuntbut... then bragged on Antimisandry "She appears to believe that my spoof feminist blog is genuine..." and "There will be some advantages: 1. I should be able to find out in advance about plots to shut down MRA sites, and thus warn site owners. 2. When I am eventually exposed as an MRA, it will be highly embarrassing for the feminist community, especially considering how ridiculous my notafemcuntbut blog is."
THE LIE: "Robin Steele is either: A. Retarded B. Unobservant C. Retarded and unobservant..."
THE TRUTH: One of us is. You be the judge.
EPILOGUE: After seeing this post, Frostyboy claims: "Robin Steele's latest post confirms my suspicions that all along, she was aware that my half-hearted attempt to enter the "sisterhood" was a prank." FYI, Frostyboy, "Big Event" was your reaction to getting pwn'd.


THE LIARS: KellyMac, Bola, John Dias on Antimisandry re: a blogger widget question that asked: "Do MRAs advocate violence against women?"
THE LIE: KM: "She's rigged that poll, anyway, to show the no's just barely sneaking past the yes's." Bola: "She can manipulate the outcome as much as she likes... It's a shaming tactic after all..." JD: "...as a professional webmaster I urge you to IGNORE THIS POLL. She can record your IP address, while changing your responses..."
THE TRUTH: I actually set up the blogger widget question to give MRAs a chance to distance themselves from pro-violence nutjobs like bob and MikeeUSA. Despite the expertise of John Dias "professional webmaster," you can't record IP addresses - or edit poll results - on blogspot.

THE LIAR: paul parmenter on antimisandry
THE LIE: "...she is waging some kind of war against the men's movement, and apparently thinks she and her sistas in arms can win it. The fact is that she has about the same chance as trying to stop a tsunami by sticking a pin into it."
THE TRUTH: I'm not waging war against the MRM, I have no "sistas in arms," and don't laugh: the tsunami pin trick worked for me once.

THE LIAR: Luke Skywalker
THE LIE: "That bitch is a female supremacist and she knows it... she also used to have posts praising Lorena Bobbitt for castrating her husband. "
THE TRUTH: I believe in balance & harmony between genders, like Yin & Yang. Equality, but not "sameness." I'm clearly not a supremacist*. Luke knows I never had a post praising Lorena Bobbitt. I had a post denouncing violence being used as treated as humor. I removed the post because Luke complained about and was misrepresenting it elsewhere. As soon as I deleted it, he started complaining about its removal, and used the opportunity to lie about what it had said.

* I AM a fan of Diana Ross, though.

THE LIAR: Christianj
THE LIE: "It's a known fact that women have no concept of GOD or anything that he does... Women are only EVER interested in themselves..."
THE TRUTH: While this isn't specifically directed at Robin Steele, it represents the ridiculous statements that MRAs tolerate from each other. The Lord has stated that every one of God's children - men and women - possess the ability to know him if they open their hearts and accept Christ. Christianj believes his opinion supercedes our Savior's. Are there no Christians in the MRM? Would they rather tolerate blasphemy than speak out on behalf of the Lord?

THE LIAR: THE LIE: THE TRUTH:



In case anyone's interested, here's what I actually believe:

I believe that there is a serious imbalance in the family court system and in society that allows some women to unfairly use the law as a weapon against their boyfriends, husbands or ex-husbands.

I believe that fathers should be granted equal parental rights as mothers - and custody issues should be decided on an individual basis that is gender-neutral.

I believe that this imbalance may have been created as a result of feminist activists, but the women who use these weapons unfairly don’t do so out of feminism or any other idealistic notion - they are just vindictive bitches who have a gun in a knife fight.

On the practical, everyday level I don’t believe this is a gender issue - I believe it’s a human issue - people need to stop turning domestic relationships into vindictive, selfish fights that destroy their entire families. They need to grow up - stop playing victims and live up to their responsibilities - male and female, husband and wife.

On the legislative level, it IS a gender issue and will require an effective father’s and men’s rights movement to push these laws and practices back to center. It is an urgent, urgent issue that needs some serious, effective people with an organized effort.

I am an advocate for an effective men’s rights movement. Read what I say on my blog and you’ll see that my criticisms of the MRM has nothing to do with the “Men’s Rights” but with the lack of “Movement” Whining, complaining and hurling macho curses and cutesy made-up vulgarities aren’t going to prevent future tragedies. Neither will tolerating the hate speech of egotistical clowns who want to lash out with threats, but who are too “busy” to advance actual change.

I believe that the true saboteurs of the Men's rights movement are those who are simply interested in being victims, whining about their oppression under Internet Anonymity and having no real interest in working for change. Some of them are bitter and hate-filled, while others are damaged and meek. I think change will come only when the haters and whiners are banished and the focus is put on cooperation, strategy, action and results.

Does that opinion make me a feminist? I don’t know and don’t care. Why don’t I criticize women’s sites? I don’t read them. They aren’t the ones who need to get their shit together. The MRM does.