So all hail to our new spiritual leader and (self-)anointed special one: Robin, woman of steele. Or is that woman of steal? No matter.
"paul parmenter" on AntiMisandry.com
Earlier today I glanced through a Robin Steele-bashing session at the AntiMisandry.com men's forum. So
meone named Drex, whom I picture as one of those Geico Caveman, gave me another Archie Bunkerism for my collection with his comment "Robin Steele and her type are the feminist infiltrators giving feminism an extra leash of life by trying to emasculate men, reduce them to "victims" that they can handle... and attempting to control and herd the MRM towards statist (feminist) ideals."An extra "leash of life"? Thanks, Drex. I needed a good laugh!
Another treat awaited. I was simultaneously amused and stunned when I read paul parmenter's sarcastic tribute (posted above) that turned out to be about me. I was amused because it was a well-paced, well-written set-up. I was stunned because "well-written" rarely comes to mind when reading on a men's rights forum, where intelligibility and any use of punctuation is noteworthy. My momentary optimism was destined, alas, to be momentary.
After that promising opening, Mr. Parmenter slid neck-deep into the sophomoric, predictable sarcasm and the warm, comfortable rhetorical slop that MRAs wallow in together:
"Just listen to Robin. She has all the answers."
"We can all learn from this most prominent MRA who has given us... brilliant solutions."
"Firstly, we are all stupid. Believe it. The great Robin says so. Secondly, we are all lazy. Again, a pronouncement from on high that none may deny. Thirdly..."
"So here is what we have to do. Follow Robin, and believe."
Then Mr P. launched into and attacked my ideas for activating the Men's Rights Movement, mocking each one, point by point. It suddenly became clear to me that Drex was right: The MRM has been infiltrated by saboteurs who were emasculating men and making them victims. He just misidentified the infiltrators.
Could you identify a saboteur?
Think about it. If someone were out to enslave you, break your will, convince you that you were powerless, what would they say to you? Would they be the person goading you into action, criticizing your passivity, urging you to get organized, active and effective? Or would it be the person criticizing the call to action, telling you that it won't work, ridiculing ideas for action but not proposing any alternative whatsoever?
Would the saboteur be the one making you feel uncomfortable about sitting around, or would the saboteur be the one telling you it's ok to stay put, relax, that it's not worth trying because you might fail?
Would the saboteur preach HOPE, that change is possible?
Or would the saboteur preach DESPAIR and fear of failure?
How does one effectively preach DESPAIR?
By discrediting any call to action as futile, and never proposing an alternative, implying that there is none.
You preach despair with sarcasm and cynicism, by ridiculing action, like this:
Write (yes, write) to media outlets. They are all just gagging to hear from you, and will love to listen to your views. They will give your opinions great prominence. If you do it right, in Robin's magical way, they will fall over themselves to publish you. Your letters and articles will burst onto the front pages; you can get slots on talk shows and radios. Politicians will suddenly sit up and take notice, realising the errors of their ways. Just ask, you fools. The world awaits your message with baited breath. No fear of being ignored, censored or ridiculed. Those nice people would never do that. They just wouldn't. They all love men.But most of all, you preach despair by instilling the FEAR OF FAILURE. (No fear of being ignored, censored or ridiculed.) You tell men who have been hurt in the past that if they go out on a limb, if they make an all-out effort they will probably fail like before and be humiliated once again. How do you preach despair? Like this:
Then we can use this thing called the internet. It's a wonderful tool, if only we stupid idiots could learn how to use it properly. Don't write about how hard done by you are; that is not the idea at all. Use it instead to make contact with others, set up networks and links, and generate a huge traffic that spreads the word far and wide. You never thought of that one, did you? See how badly you need Robin the Great to guide you.
So all give thanks to Robin. Just one more little, teensy weensy question, o magnificent leader.
What do we do when we discover your ideas are all just a heap of bollocks and fall flat on their face?
You would get up, dust yourself off, return to the fight wiser and with greater resolve... Rather than state the obvious, I would instead misquote Henry David Thoreau* "Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with the song still in them."
For me, I'm more afraid of going to the grave with the song still in me than making an effort and failing.
But that's just me. Robin Steele. Saboteur.
* Thoreau never actually said the last part, but it's too good to sacrifice for accuracy.
13 comments:
Stalin wrote: “By discrediting any call to action as futile, and never proposing an alternative, implying that there is none.”
Men are not all quiet and females action, Ms. Steele. Sometimes I think the feminists are becoming afraid, very afraid, of men of action.
Hers is a list of females who sat quietly while an anti-feminist man too action:
Geneviève Bergeron (b. 1968), civil engineering student.
Hélène Colgan (b. 1966), mechanical engineering student.
Nathalie Croteau (b. 1966), mechanical engineering student.
Barbara Daigneault (b. 1967) mechanical engineering student.
Anne-Marie Edward (b. 1968), chemical engineering student.
Maud Haviernick (b. 1960), materials engineering student.
Maryse Laganière (b. 1964), budget clerk in the École Polytechnique's finance department. Maryse Leclair (b. 1966), materials engineering student.
Anne-Marie Lemay (b. 1967), mechanical engineering student.
Sonia Pelletier (b. 1961), mechanical engineering student.
Michèle Richard (b. 1968), materials engineering student.
Annie St-Arneault (b. 1966), mechanical engineering student.
Annie Turcotte (b. 1969), materials engineering student.
Barbara Klucznik-Widajewicz (b. 1958), nursing student
Sometimes I think feminists are very afraid that more men might take action.
Thanks bob for your contribution to this post on - and for serving as a continual example of - cowardice. You illustrate that cowardice is not always eloquent. For those not tuned into bob's sad, repetitious and futile bid for attention, he has listed the innocent murder victims of a mentally ill gunman in the 80s. Though the troubled young man claimed to be against feminists, his victims were random women, resented because they had the drive and discipline to be working toward engineering degrees and productive futures.
The men present who failed to rush and subdue the attacker live with the shame of their inaction. Unlike the shooter, who killed himself, they live with the burden of having taken the easy way out.
bob also neglects to share that this "man of action" did wonders for empowering both the feminist and anti-gun movements in Canada. If one wanted to sabotage the Men's Rights Movement, glorifying the Montreal Massacre would be a fine tactic.
Steele says, "The men present who failed to rush and subdue the attacker live with the shame of their inaction."
A century and a half of "equality" feminazism and Steele still criticizes men for failing to sacrifice their lives to protect weak cowardly females. You've come a long way baby -- NOT! It's still the same old, same old, same old, forked toung. The bimbos are "equal" when they take "Affirmative Action" preference in college enrollment" but remain weeklings needing protection when men can be blamed for failing to sacrifice our lives to protect them.
Be afraid Steele. Be very afraid.
Steele, woman of no talent, if you need an outlet for your overblown ego, join a casting show.
"The men present who failed to rush and subdue the attacker live with the shame of their inaction. Unlike the shooter, who killed himself, they live with the burden of having taken the easy way out."
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You can either have equality or chivalry but not both. There is no shame in equals not fighting to defend others who are equal to them, as they should defend themselves. The men who didn't risk there lives to take down the shooter were not police officers or military. It was not there jobs to risk their lives.
Why do you not shame the other women around for not rushing the shooter? Could it be you only want equality when it benefits women? how convenient.
How can you be a Men's Rights Activist when you shame men who do whats in their best interest?
Anonymous said: How can you be a Men's Rights Activist when you shame men who do whats in their best interest?
How can YOU be a Men's Rights Activist and disregard the content of this post, namely that saboteur paul parmenter preaches that men should not attempt to get press coverage or Internet exposure because they are bound to fail and face ridicule? Or the more serious fact that his comment gets a positive reception supposed MRAs?
How can YOU be a Men's Rights Activist and not speak up when a saboteur like bob glorifies an event that significantly impaired Men's Rights and advanced Feminist legislation?
The problem with the MRM is that you mistake the saboteurs of the movement as friends, and attack those who call for action and results enemies.
The normal pattern is to distort my view and then attack the distortion, not my view.
I am not shaming these men - my point's a bit deeper than that. My statement "The men present who failed to rush and subdue the attacker live with the shame of their inaction." is a fact. In subsequent interviews the survivors expressed that they dealt with guilt and remorse for years afterward. My point is not to blame them for something that occured so suddenly and unexpectedly, it's to reinforce the point of the post: that taking action is - in the end - empowering, while backing down from the challenge for fear of failure leads to a sense of powerlessness and despair.
The enemy among you are those who say there's no use trying to change things. The saboteurs are those who tear down my ideas without proposing any better ones of their own.
Unlike the shooter, who killed himself, they live with the burden of having taken the easy way out.
Women use this method all the time and it doesn't bother them.
The fact you use a shame and blame tactic should tell everyone you are NOT an MRA and the fact you exclude women from being held accountable definitely proves you are not an MRA as they could have disarmed Lepine just as any of the men could.
Cut the comedy,Robin.
You have praised feminists. In your true colors you are a female supremacist,anti-MRA who is proud that IMBRA is law,that men should be subservient to women. You have had Men's News Daily listed as a "hate site" when it is not. You tried to associate MRA sites with NAMBLA and the sex offender registry under the heading,"cretin sites". You've probably are the one who parodied me and my blog and you've put down genuine MRA's. I guess that last one is the most consistant for you as you are still putting them down. You've altered your blog to make us look like liars when is you who is the one lying. We all know what you originally wrote and some of us have snapshots of it with its original writings which would tell everyone what a feminazi you truly are.
Masculist Man:
Your profile states I've been a masculist for 14 years and have been very activist,both on and offline.
I was raised to respect my elders, and know I should show respect for someone who has "been very activist" like yourself. I would like to post a tribute to all you have accomplished in the area of men's rights. Could you please email me a list of all of your concrete accomplishments, including bills and legislation championed and passed? Anti-male laws successfully fought? Successful Men's Rights PR campaigns you've launched or participated in? Don't be modest. Please include the specific metrics you used to document your wins! We are coming up on a decade and a half of success thanks to the Masculist Man approach to men's rights advocacy. Please get me the list asap. Perhaps Luke can help )if he's out of the Principal's office yet).
I want to get the tribute posted soon before someone comes along and starts proposing that it's time for some new ideas and tries to ship you off to the Old Masculists Home with Duncan Donuts Fred Ups.
MasculistMan:
You've altered your blog to make us look like liars when is you who is the one lying. We all know what you originally wrote and some of us have snapshots of it with its original writings which would tell everyone what a feminazi you truly are.
It is true what 'MasculistMan' says. Robin Steele has also copied comments written by MRAs in their forum, altered them for use in her own blog and is now calling several MRAs to be liars.
What a malicious manipulation...
Instead of unsubstantiated accusations, Yohan, why don't you offer some proof.
Better yet, why don't you address the serious points I make - which have not changed. Use your own mind instead of jumping on the bandwagon... especially when the bandwagon is piloted by a bitter old sot like MasciePie. Do you want to share his list of accomplishments when you've been at this for 14 years? What's he accomplished? Nothing.
Angry old man just got banished to TrollTown by Chris Keys and an ElfPrincess. How sad is that?
Look how cunt Steele always demands proof while NEVER providing any herself. The oldest one in the fucking book for weaklings like her to run away with their tails between their legs to avoid accountability.
Always projection from Bellevue retard Steele.
Drex is known as HaaHoo. He's an admitted schizophrenic who takes Stelazine (which apparently doesn't
work anymore). The staff at antmisandry.com make excuses for his behavior all the time. He's real "intelligent", but not responsible for what he writes on his posts.
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